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yokozuna
24th October 2005, 11:56 AM
Kenapa bila aku tgk fp aku kt PC lain, kebanyakan nampak pudar walaupun ade jgk yg nampak color lagi terang atau timbul...
Aku tak tahu monitor calibration kt monitor aku ni dh betui ke tidak...
tapi aritu rasenye dh setting betui dah..dulu aku pakai adobe gamma tapi skarang aku pakai bende lain plak...ape bende gamma dah tak ingat..
so korang setting korang nyer monitor tu camaner? ke automatic jer biler install windows xp tu?
Lagi satu biler print tu gbr yg dihasilkan tu pun nampak sedikit pudar berbanding color kt monitor.....
ape2 pun, ni ader skit maklumat pasal monitor calibration : Setting up your monitor (http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html)

helmyemran
19th December 2005, 02:15 AM
time kasih yoko. aku pun tak tau camne nak cari setting terbaik utk monitor PC nih. dulu pakai apple senang je.

dah lama post nie ek, baru aku jumpa.

myusufm
19th December 2005, 02:31 AM
time kasih yoko. aku pun tak tau camne nak cari setting terbaik utk monitor PC nih. dulu pakai apple senang je.

dah lama post nie ek, baru aku jumpa.

apple pakai per? aku pakai ibook agak problem gak..hehe..sebab bila dongakan die lain jadik lain sket...tukar imac aa ginih..

helmyemran
19th December 2005, 02:35 AM
dulu aku pki imac. dah blow 4 thn lepas. nasib baik lepas grad. sbnrnya, aku lebih rela angkut CPU ngan monitor drpd ngadap screen laptop. masalah tu la.

ambig
19th December 2005, 02:36 AM
Samalah bro...saya tengok gambar saya pun, lain pc lain mcm warnanya...kejab terang kejab under...

AyAres151
19th December 2005, 04:45 AM
so...camne cara terbaik nak calibrate monitor? ada saper2 tau?

zainzubir
19th December 2005, 09:02 AM
Semasa seminar Lloyd, ada sebut pasal monitor/color calibration, dia ada guna alat yg diletak/lekat atas screen..details kurang jelas. Tapi those yg hendak buat sendiri (manually,tanpa software),boleh baca article dibawah ini.
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Digital Focus
Dave Johnson's expert tips promise to enhance your expertise with your digital camera, scanner, printer, and image editing software.

Digital Focus: Calibrate Your Monitor

Optimize a monitor so that you see is what you print.

Dave Johnson
Tuesday, April 22, 2003


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Feature: Calibrate Your Monitor for Digital Images

A friend called me the other day with a digital photo problem. "I just printed a photo on good paper, and it doesn't look like what's on the monitor," he complained. "Why not? How can I get them to match?"


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My buddy's problem stems from the fact that the two output devices--the printer and monitor--are calibrated differently. If you want what's on the screen when you edit a photo to resemble what comes out of the printer, then you need to correct one or the other so they're in agreement. It's easier to adjust the monitor (printers don't come with calibration tools), so that's what we'll do.

If you don't mind spending money, there are a few programs designed to help you calibrate your monitor. Pantone's OptiCal is the mother of all such programs--but at around $200, it's probably better-suited for true graphics professionals. LightSurf Technologies' $50 Colorific is a much more affordable color-matching and monitor calibration system.

Before you rush out to buy a calibration package, check the software you got when you bought your monitor. For example, Colorific is often bundled with monitors. But the truth is, it's possible to calibrate your monitor manually, without any software at all: It just takes a good eye and some judgment.
Set Your Display Properties

To optimize your monitor, the best place to start is the Windows Display Properties dialog box. There are a few things you can do here to render images on screen more accurately, and improve the overall look of your display at the same time.

Right-click on the Windows Desktop and choose Properties to call up the Display Properties dialog box. Click on the Settings tab to see details about your computer's display settings.

Check the screen resolution. It should be at least 800 by 600 pixels, and higher is generally better--as long as text doesn't become too small to be easily readable. If the resolution is too low, you won't see as much on screen and digital images won't look as smooth. Experiment by increasing the resolution and clicking the Apply button. Keep the resolution comfortable; if things get too small, revert to a lower resolution. I think that 1024 by 768 is good for a 17-inch CRT display, and try 1280 by 1024 if you have a 19-inch screen. (LCD monitors have one optimum resolution, so you should always use the recommended settings.)

Watch the refresh rate. Generally, high-quality monitors are more competent than inexpensive models at displaying higher resolutions. Be careful not to push the resolution on your monitor so high that its refresh rate degrades below 72 hz. Lower rates cause a perceptible level of flicker and often result in eye fatigue. You should be able to find your refresh settings by clicking the Advanced button on your Settings tab and checking either the Adapter or Monitor tab. If you have to, back off your resolution to a level that brings your refresh rate up to acceptable levels. If you back off to a relatively low resolution and still can't get your refresh rate up to an acceptable level, you probably need to install an updated driver for your monitor and/or graphics adapter. Check their manufacturers' Web sites.

Set the color quality. If it's set too low--like 8 bit, or 256 colors--then images will look dramatically different on screen than they do when printed. Depending on your graphics adapter, you'll likely see a best setting of 24 bit or 32 bit. For working with digital images, 32 bits doesn't really improve the images on screen, and it could be a drag on your system's performance. If you don't have an option for 24-bit color (many people will find only selections for 16-bit and 32-bit color), don't worry: That's an indication that your graphics adapter has enough moxie to handle 32-bit. But stick with 16-bit color, since that's more than enough to deal with image editing tasks.

After you've completed making your choices in the Display Properties dialog box, click either the OK or Apply button for the changes to take effect.
Print a Test Photo

The most important tweak we can make is to match the monitor's settings to a real print from your ink jet printer. So load a picture you like--choose a daylight photo that includes a person with natural skin tones--into your image editor and print it at highest quality onto a sheet of top-quality glossy photo paper. Let the picture dry out of direct sunlight for a few hours to set the colors permanently.
Optimize Your Monitor

Now we're ready to get to work. Make sure that your monitor is set up the way you usually use it, with the same level of ambient light as you typically have when editing photos. Eliminate any harsh glare by closing window shades or angling the monitor.

Next, set the monitor's contrast and brightness levels to their halfway point. Most monitors have buttons or dials on the front of the case; you may need to experiment or check your monitor user guide.

Now open the image file in your image editor and set the picture you printed right next to the monitor so you can look from one image to the other. From here, it's just a matter of adjusting the brightness, contrast, and color levels until the printed and on-screen images agree with each other.

Unfortunately, there's no magic bullet for monitor calibration. It takes a good eye to tweak the red, green, blue, brightness, and contrast levels to match a test image, like the one we just made. But there are tons of useful Web sites out there that can lend a hand with fine-tuning your monitor. If you want to read more, check out Bryce Alive Quick Guide to Monitor Calibration and Monitor Calibration.

abahwafi
19th December 2005, 09:26 AM
IMHO, walau macam mana pon kita calibrate monitor kita still ada limitation...yes, hardware limitation! Ada bermacam jenis monitor dan graphic card yg rasanyer sedikit sebanyak akan mempengaruhi color/brightness gambar.

So, kesimpulannya.....cara terbaik utk tau gambar tu OK ke tak ialah PRINT ajer...itu lah dikira sbg final result...just my 2 million rupiah :D

Tapi ada satu lagi yg kita tak boleh nak kawal...iaitu calibration mata kita sendiri...hmmm THE BEAUTY LIES ON THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER...hehehee :lol:

zainzubir
19th December 2005, 09:32 AM
macam perli mata kak zain jer nih...estik tinggi, kena cahaya lari allignment... :lol: :lol: ...dah calibrate dgn pakar mata di DHS...dia advise sentiasa guna kacamata hitam disiang hari... :cry: :cry:

abahwafi
19th December 2005, 09:35 AM
Tak perli la kak zain...cuma saya berpendapat isu calibration ni mcm subjektif...bergantung kpd mata memasing...tu ajer..hehehee

helmyemran
19th December 2005, 09:45 AM
kalau utk print sendiri, dulu masa blaja, cikgu ckp, format kaler screen ngan print lain. utk screen, kita pakai RGB. utk print kita pakai CMYK. RGB stand for Red, Green and Blue while CMYK stand for Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black. logik gak, sbb screen display pakai gabungan cahaya. bila semua cahaya bergabung, dpt putih. Print kita guna dakwat, bila sume kaler bergabung kita dpt warna hitam. so, diorng suruh tuka mode bila nak print. kalau tak tuka, sure akan nampak cerah.

yg kat atas tu kalau print kat rumah pakai ink jet or bubble jet. skang nih, aku rasa kedai gamba dah setelkan problem tu kot sbb ada gak yg aku tgk sama kaler dia. walau tak tuka ke mode CMYK.

zainzubir
19th December 2005, 09:53 AM
baru2 nih kami hantar 6 kepng 8X10 utk dicuci di fotozoom, color quality amat mengecewakan w/pun the damage bukan sedikit RM42 +10 (cd)....mula2 tidak perasan, bila Adeeba my daughter sebut tak puas hati..dlm pc lain bila print byk beza (maklumlah dia akan submit dlm sony photo contest)..baru saya belek betul2...chemical/color used seumpama tidak rich, ada sesiapa boleh recommend tpt proses gambar yg lebih baik??

myusufm
19th December 2005, 06:10 PM
baru2 nih kami hantar 6 kepng 8X10 utk dicuci di fotozoom, color quality amat mengecewakan w/pun the damage bukan sedikit RM42 +10 (cd)....mula2 tidak perasan, bila Adeeba my daughter sebut tak puas hati..dlm pc lain bila print byk beza (maklumlah dia akan submit dlm sony photo contest)..baru saya belek betul2...chemical/color used seumpama tidak rich, ada sesiapa boleh recommend tpt proses gambar yg lebih baik??

biasanye bukan masalah kedai gambar kak zain..masalhnye komputer kat umah sendiri...profile kat kedai ngan profile kat komp kite lain..lagi2 bila kak zain tak calibrate monitor..apa yang kak zain nampak mmg takkan sama ngan ape yang kuar kat print..sebab tuh saya prefer print sendrik..calibrate la monitor ngan print tu bagi sama..

macam kate helmyemran..printer besaq2 kebanyakkan nye pakai format CMYK..tapi tak silap saya lah untuk printer umah biasa nih, ade gak printer yang otomatik tukar data ke cmyk..kita guna fail rgb tapi masa print tu die oto tukar cmyk..so biasanya tak perlu risau bende nih...risau bila kita gi antar ke sykt printing je...

dulu saya keje kat satu kedai..terlibat la gak dalam penghasilan flyers dan hantar kat sykt print nih..sykt print dan bos mmg cerewet bab nih sebab nak ape kuar kat monitor kuar kat print...masa start2 dulu pening...hahha

dan satu lagi...takleh gak nak harap satu dunia nih nampak warna sama ape yang kita nampak...org lain calibrate monitor(yang tak pakai alat) lain dr kita calibrate...so kita calibrate je monitor kita supaya ape yang kita print sendrik tuh sama ngan ape yang kita nampak kat monitor...udah..

myusufm
19th December 2005, 06:13 PM
dulu aku pki imac. dah blow 4 thn lepas. nasib baik lepas grad. sbnrnya, aku lebih rela angkut CPU ngan monitor drpd ngadap screen laptop. masalah tu la.

mmg masalah laptop nih...aku pon rase nk jual je ibook aku..pastuh nak angkat imac...

zainzubir
20th December 2005, 08:09 AM
myusufm:terima kasih byk2...harituh dah belek2 nak beli printer canon yg baru di launch, harga reasonable juga ..tapi kat rumah nih anak 2 mcm 10, printer yg biasa tuh habis di kerjakannya utk print kad dll...esp si Adeeba, ada shj yg diprint,mlm tadi dia sibuk print anniversary kad utk mama dan baba dia, sebab itu terfikir2 nak beli printer khas utk photo nih :wink: maintenance tinggi, lebih baik cuci kedai shj buat masa ini hingga mereka berdua berakal penuh.... :roll:

abahwafi
20th December 2005, 09:20 AM
Biasa la kak zain..bebudak remaja, mmg gitu...

shahrul
26th January 2006, 07:53 PM
baru2 nih kami hantar 6 kepng 8X10 utk dicuci di fotozoom, color quality amat mengecewakan w/pun the damage bukan sedikit RM42 +10 (cd)....mula2 tidak perasan, bila Adeeba my daughter sebut tak puas hati..dlm pc lain bila print byk beza (maklumlah dia akan submit dlm sony photo contest)..baru saya belek betul2...chemical/color used seumpama tidak rich, ada sesiapa boleh recommend tpt proses gambar yg lebih baik??

Kalau nak minilab, QS Citifoto KLCC kira OK la jugak, tapi kalau nak print besar2, saya selalu hantar ke Applied Imaging kat TTDI pasal mostly saya print dari slide. Situ kualiti mmg bagus.
Check website diaorg: http://www.appliedimaging.com.my

zainzubir
28th January 2006, 07:50 AM
Thank you Sharul..nanti sesenang jenjalan/recce kat Burhanuddin Helmi tuh... :wink: