Apa Kata Survey... Macro @ Telephoto ?

[buntalshoot]

Aku bercadang2 klu ade duit skit...nak ler beli salah
satu jenis lens nie... apa pendapat korang mana satu
yg patut aku beli dulu....

1. Macro lens
Sigma 105, Tamron 90Sp, Micro-nikkor 105 2nd hand
2. Telephoto
Nikkor 80-200 2 touch

Tapi klu lens tamron 90sp, bila2 bleh angkat, klu Nikkor tu kena tunggu 2-3 bln lagi kot... pendapat u all?

[PeLaris]

sdr buntalshoot menulis :-


2. Telephoto
Nikkor 80-200 2 touch

Size 80-200mm tidak dipanggil Telephoto, yang sebenarnya ialah Telezoom

[yokozuna]

sdr buntalshoot menulis :-


2. Telephoto
Nikkor 80-200 2 touch

Size 80-200mm tidak dipanggil Telephoto, yang sebenarnya ialah Telezoom

owhh yeke. setahu saye lens yg mempunyai FL 70mm keatas sudah consider as telephoto. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephoto tak kisah la, istilah jer..ekeke

lens macro sigma & tamron tu sblm ni dh ader comparison thread : Tamron SP AF DI 90mm f/2.8 Macro vs Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG (http://www.fotopages-malaysia.com/v1/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=343)

[PeLaris]

Yes and No !!!!!

Secara mudahnya, Telephoto untuk lensa yang hanya dapat mendekatkan objek sahaja dan tidak boleh mengezoom dekat dah jauh.

Manakala Telezoom, boleh mengezoom. Itulah perbezaannya.

[buntalshoot]

Dengan rasminya saya telah membeli Tamron SP AF Di 90mm atas nasihat yokozuna... thanx...(baru duk try test).
Telephoto@telezoom 80-200 akanku beli klu harga dan lencun RM2K... :)

[yokozuna]

Dengan rasminya saya telah membeli Tamron SP AF Di 90mm atas nasihat yokozuna... thanx...(baru duk try test).
Telephoto@telezoom 80-200 akanku beli klu harga dan lencun RM2K... :)

ekekeke..(power jugak racunku ini).... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ok tak bro?? puas hati doppp??...ho laa worth the money laa dok.
cepat upload gbr ..nk tgk ni
:D :D

telezoom lens power2 ni mmg teringin nk angkat..70-200mm F2.8L USM tu pehhh...
tapi dok pk2, jarang bonar kot tembak jauh2 ni, so drpd angkat yg tu better angkat yg ni dulu kot; 16-35mm f2.8L USM EF Zoom Lens (ni kalau kes ade duit lebih la). Sbb rasenye maybe lens ni lebih byk gune instead of telezoom....so pendapat ambo, nk angkat lens power, kena tgk penggunaannya!! ekekeke

[brahym]

a ah...mulakan beli dari standard 50mm, then wide, med zoom dan baru le telezoom..tapi kalau sesapa yang nak terus ker shoting jarak jauh leh teruskan membeli telezoom..aku baru jer jual 90-300mm USM aku sebab langsung tak guna.hahhhh

[brahym]

pelaris: kiranya telephoto tu untuk prime jenis 70mm keatas ke? then telezoom utk 70 keatas yang boleh zoom yer..info ni baru jer aku tau..thanks..

[abahwafi]

Dengan rasminya saya telah membeli Tamron SP AF Di 90mm atas nasihat yokozuna... thanx...(baru duk try test).
Telephoto@telezoom 80-200 akanku beli klu harga dan lencun RM2K... :)

Brapa rega utk 90mm DI tu bro ?? Teringin gak nak layan macro ni... :roll:

[PeLaris]

Ya brahym, mmg benar tu.....
Pabila teknologi berubah, lensa berukuran 24-120mm, 24-135mm, 24-200mm, 28-200mm, 28-300mm dll, jurufoto mengkategorikan sebagai Super Zoom.

[buntalshoot]

aku beli mungkin mahal kot....RM 1350.00...(leos Ampang, langsung takleh kurang) dengar ade org beli kat penang RM1250 jerr....

[PeLaris]

Sesuatu yang cantik, tak kira dah berapa harga!!! Tul tak buntalshoot ? ;)

[zainzubir]

Sesuatu yang cantik, tak kira dah berapa harga!!! Tul tak buntalshoot ? ;)

ini ayat orang yang berwang...jika aunty byk dlm fikiran esp dah lama nak kan super wide angle....masih congak2 berapa ler getah naik rega january nih...btw, tahu tak kita kena import getah dari Thailand utk pasaran ke Britain sebab kekurangan getah dlm negara??tak caya??..ini maklumat dalaman sebuah syarikat getah yg mengexport ke Britain.... :wink:

[PeLaris]

Hehehe aunty, mmg tul, bila kita nak kan sesuatu tak kira darimana dtg dia kan kan kan kan......

[yokozuna]

Sesuatu yang cantik, tak kira dah berapa harga!!! Tul tak buntalshoot ? ;)

ini ayat orang yang berwang...jika aunty byk dlm fikiran esp dah lama nak kan super wide angle....masih congak2 berapa ler getah naik rega january nih...btw, tahu tak kita kena import getah dari Thailand utk pasaran ke Britain sebab kekurangan getah dlm negara??tak caya??..ini maklumat dalaman sebuah syarikat getah yg mengexport ke Britain.... :wink:

ehh aunty ni betui ke jual getah.. :roll: :roll: :roll: dulu saye ingat aunty memain jer...ni cam betui2 tokey getah sekerap ni!!
bravo aunty bravo..wekekeke

[buntalshoot]

betul tu PeLaris.... "Hendak Seribu Daya...." bak kata bro.Ted

[brahym]

tamron 90mm macro = RM1350...
picture taken = priceless

[AyAres151]

topic moved from DSLR to PERKAKASAN

[tembeling]

Telephoto@telezoom 80-200 akanku beli klu harga dan lencun RM2K... :)

RM2000?? Nikkor ke? Kira murah tu. Kat mana jual?

:twisted:

Anyway, I have with me Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8. A good macro & potrait lens. Very good.

Example of some shotshere (http://tembeling.fotopages.com/?entry=645529)

And baru2 ni baru beli Nikkor AF 70-210mm f/4 (http://www.iiumedic.edu.my/drjamal/images/70-210mm-01.jpg) from Desmond.

http://www.iiumedic.edu.my/drjamal/images/70-210mm-02.jpg

[PeLaris]

Kajian menyebut fasal Nikon AF 105mm f/2.8D Micro :-

Effective focal length : 104.9mm
Optical Construction : Nine elements in eight groups
Minimun focus : 0.31
Max. magnification : 1:1
Filter thread : 52mm
Lenght : 104.5mm
Weight : 555g
AF Fitting : Nikon

HANDLING/FEATURES
Nice handling thanks to excellent build quality. Boasts a wide manual focus ring with a grooved finish but smooth action. The barrel also features a focus limiter switch and marking for focus distance, magnification and hyperfocal focus.

AUTO FOCUS
No complaints. Fast, quite and accurate.

OPTICAL PERFORMANCE
Very good centres at f/2.8, improves to axcellent at f/3.5. Edges aren`t so hot, scraping a very good rating at f/8.

DISTORTION
n/a

SUMMARY
A very nice lens but costs over the odds considering it`s nothing spectacular.

Handling/features 9/10
Autofocus 9/10
Optical performance 7/10
OVERALL 7/10

[tembeling]

Here are what I found:

"This is a great lens. It focusses right up to 1:1 life size with no fooling around. If focusses quickly in both AF and manual modes. And yes, of course it's sharp all over at every distance and f/stop."

"Nikon is big in the microscope and scientific world. They don't mess around when it comes to macro lenses! This baby is just about perfect optically and pretty well made mechanically for an AF lens.

It has a tiny bit of axial secondary chromatic aberration.

Hand held at far distances my 80-200 AFS is almost a little bit sharper. I attribute this to the heavy weight of the AFS which tends to attenuate my F100's vibration.

Macro lenses focus close enough that the effective aperture changes as you get closer. The TTL meter for available light and flash exposure compensates for this. The F100, unless you change this in a custom function, will read and set the true effective f/stop regardless of distance. That means that at infinity the f/stop range is from f/2.8 through f/32, but at 1:1 the effective range is f/5 through f/57.

AF Speed is very fast for regular use: one full turn of the AF screw brings you from infinity to 10 feet, which is faster than any of the 70-210, 80-200, 75-300 or 70-300mm lenses."

Source: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/105af.htm

And...

"If you are looking to buy your first (or next) professional lens that enables a whole new world to be explored, but one that can also be used for general photography, the 105mm f/2.8D AF Micro-Nikkor is a very good choice: it offers sharp optics and excellent handling."

Source: http://www.photo.net/equipment/nikon/105-micro/

The more important is to test the lens yourself & just choose the one you like. Just my 2 sen.

[buntalshoot]

bang tembeling, lens 70-210 berapa harganya.... murah tak? nie sedang mencari gak nie

[tembeling]

Ala...kau ambik la 70-200 f/2.8 VR. Kau dah pro... :D Gambar2 kat your FP semua power!

Anyway...harganya RM850. Like new condition. I reckon great for outdoor tapi tak cuba lagi.

[ambig]

Entahlah...macam saya tengah fikir nak sabar Tamron 90mm...telezoom tu mungkin later kot...tapi priority nampaknya utk Tamron 90mm

[tembeling]

Kalau saya boleh dapat Nikkor 105mm second hand, saya ambik Nikon...else ingat nak sambar Tamron jugak :D

[bubba]

alamak ... salah masuk bilik .... banyak racun kat sini :P

[brahym]

racun ni kalau minum sure mayat jadi hitam berkilat macam darth vader tu..:):):)

[buntalshoot]

Ala...kau ambik la 70-200 f/2.8 VR. Kau dah pro... :D Gambar2 kat your FP semua power!

Anyway...harganya RM850. Like new condition. I reckon great for outdoor tapi tak cuba lagi.

aaa...pro ker?? :lol: klu macam tu duit ajerlah yg tak pro...he he....

[PeLaris]

Kajian menyebut fasal Sigma AF 105mm f/2.8 EX

Effective focal length : 100.5mm
Optical construction : Ten elements in nine groups
Minimun focus : 0.313mm
Max. magnification : 1:1
Filter thread : 58mm
Length : 95mm
Weight : 450g
AF Fittings : Canon, Minolta, Nikon, Pentax & Sigma.

HANDLING/FEATURES
Very sleek, modern-looking lens dominated by the wide manual focus ring which is easy to grip and has a push/pull action to switch from AF to MF. The focus distance window has a hyperfocal scale while the barrel features a fucus limiter and a magnification scale.

AUTOFOCUS
Our Canon-fit lens proved quiet, quick and accurate.

OPTICAL PERFORMANCE
Very good sharpness at f/2.8 improving to excellent at f/8

DISTORTION
1.5 % Pincushion.

SUMMARY
Has to be in your shortlist. It delivers in every department and is very well priced.

Handling/Features 9/10
Autofocus 9/10
Optical performance 8/10
OVERALL 9/10

[tembeling]

Berapa $$ kat Malaysia? Menarik ni :D

[brahym]

nak beli lens sigma kena hati2..compatibility dgn canon pun tak berapa ngam...dengor kata beberapa sigma lens takleh berfungsi dgn D200..i prefer tamron dari sigma..90mm F2.8 tamron adalah macro lens yang terbaik dan harga berpatutan

[PeLaris]

Sayapun kurang periksa fasal harganya tembeling.. Agak² lam lingkungan 2k lebih skit..

/me ;) kat brahym ... hehehe... ya, di bawah ni test for tamron macro

[PeLaris]

Kajian menyebut fasal Tamron AF 90mm f/2.8 SP Macro

Effective focal lenght : 87.4mm
Optcal construction : Ten elements in nine groups
Minimum focus : 0.29m
Max. magnification : 1:1
Filter thread : 55mm
Length : 97mm
Weight : 420g
AF Fittings : Canon, Minolta, Nikon and Pentax.

HANDLING/FEATURES
This updated version boasts slight external and optical changes to previous model. Features a large focus distance window with reproduction ratio, easy-to-use push/pull focusing ring and a limiter switch. Soft case supplied.

AUTOFOCUS
Our Nikon-fit sample proved responsive and quick.

OPTICAL PERFORMANCE
Boasts excellent central resolution throughout the range. Edges fare from good at maximum aperture to excellent at f/8

DISTORTION
n/a

SUMMARY
This revamped Tamron is destined to be a classic. Highly recommended.

Handling/features 9/10
Autofocus 9/10
Optical performance 9/10
OVERALL 9/10

[tembeling]

2K?? Peh! Kalau camtu, baik angkat Nikkor.

[AyAres151]

nikkor ngan tamron nih..mana lebih baik?

[buntalshoot]

Harga di Key Color Midvalley,

Sigma Macro 105mm f2.8 EX DG = RM1550
Micro-Nikkor 105mm f2.8D = RM2390
Sumber Photomalaysia.com (http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5002)

Klu pandai ayat boleh dapat kurang lagi kot.

AyAres, sudah semestinya 105mm Micro Nikkor... kepowerannya tiada tandingan.. lagipun Tamron Focal Lengthnya sampai 90mm ajer... Tapi Tamron adalah lens lagenda bagi peminat macro dan sesuai untuk pengguna yg tight bajetnya cam aku nie...he hee.... :D

[PeLaris]

Kekeliruan harga, maaf dipinta kepada tembeling dan semua...
Berdasarkan susunan tu, harganya kurang seratus dua dari Tamron AF 90mm f/2.8 SP Macro ....

AyAres boleh tanya zzoux dan tembeling, mana yang best. Hati², racun ada di mana². :)

[PeLaris]

Kajian menyebut fasal Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM.

Efective Focal Length
96.5mm

Optical Construction
12 elements in eight groups

Minimum Focus
0.31m

Max.Magnification
1:1

Filter Thread
58mm

Length
119mm

Weight
600g

AF Fitting
Canon

Handling/Features
Chunky lens that is well-made and handles well. Features a focus limiter switch and distance window with a macro ratios. Very wide and contoured manual focus ring with smooth action.

Autofocus
Silent. Incredibly fast for standard distances and positive at macro work.

Optical Performance
A brilliant set of result. Even at maximum aperture the centres and edges show very good sharpness with resolution reaching excellent at f/4 and peaking at f/8

Distortion
n/a

Summary
The 100mm macro lens that every Canon user should start saving for. Superb.

Handling/Features 8/10
Autofocus 10/10
Optcal Performance 9/10
OVERALL 9/10

[sobriazmi]

oh bro pelaris...
racun apakah yang bro maksudkan..
racun serangga ka..racun rumpai kaa..
atau racun hasutan...
hik hik hikkk

[petrofsky]

sdr buntalshoot menulis :-


2. Telephoto
Nikkor 80-200 2 touch

Size 80-200mm tidak dipanggil Telephoto, yang sebenarnya ialah Telezoom

Lagi salah. Ianya sepatutnya di panggil Telephoto Zoom.

[PeLaris]

Tidak pernah saya ada dengar ada orang sebut Telephoto Zoom.. Sebab bila dah telephoto mana boleh main main zoom fulakz... :)

Sama jugak seperti kita, adakah kita ni Juru Kamera, Juru Gambar atau Juru Foto ? ;)

[buntalshoot]

Rilek2.... sama aje kot.... aku dah search dalam google... dua2 istilah ada, telephoto zoom dan telezoom.
tapi nampaknya istilah telephoto zoom banyak digunakan untuk merujuk kepada lens2 berkaitan lens telephoto termasuklah lens Nikkor 80-200 (rujuk http://www.nikon.com.my).... :D yang penting lens tu mempunyai fungsi zoom dan dia boleh mengezoom dekat dan jauh.... :wink:

[brahym]

so mana yang betul laks? juru kamera ke jurugambar ke juru foto? sesapa yang dok kat juru penang mebbe leh explain//:):):)

[zainzubir]

Menurut Kamus DBP 1991-An English Malay Dictionary, pg 1154, photographer ialah Jurugambar

:wink:

[PeLaris]

Perbahasan berlaku antara Jins Shamsuddin (sekarang Dato') dan bapak Hamzah Hurmin dari Asfon lebih kurang 24 tahun yang lalu kalau tak silap. Apakah istilah yang perlu diguna pakai untuk "Photographer"....

Sebulat suara bersetuju, meletakkan istilah Jurufoto/Jurugambar ( Photographer), Jurukamera (Cameraman, untuk filem) dan Juruvideo (Videoman/Videographer, untuk video)..

Berkenaan panggilan keatas satu² lensa. Sekarang, seperti yang pernah disebut, dunia fotografi mulai berubah. Banyak benda termasuk lensa, kamera waiima peralatan fotografi lain diubah nama mengikut kesuaian.
Contoh, grain disebut noise, filters sudah menjadi white balance dan pelbagai...

Yang sengaja diubah seperti Canon EOS 350D. Mengapa disebut Canon Digital Rebel XT ? :roll: :wink:

[zainzubir]

tak silap rebel xt pasaran Europe dan pasaran Jepun Kiss..... :roll: Malaysia/Asia? ...350D , sama spt kancil dan mira dan perdana dan etenna...sunny dan sentra.... :wink:

yg tak sama.... jengkol dan ikan tongkol :lol: :lol:

[brahym]

jengkol tu apa kak zain?

[zainzubir]

ntah..main sebut jer sebab pernah dengo maid Indonesian sebut.... :lol:

[PeLaris]

Erkkkss!!!

Kita dah terlanjur ni, berbalik kita pada topik....
Teringin sangat nak gosok² masa nak tidur lensa yang bernama " EF 85mm f1.2L USM "

[brahym]

Erkkkss!!!

Kita dah terlanjur ni, berbalik kita pada topik....
Teringin sangat nak gosok² masa nak tidur lensa yang bernama " EF 85mm f1.2L USM "

eh bro pun kwanion ker? Ingatkan dark side :):):)

[PeLaris]

Syhhhhhhh..... brahym mana tau arr???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cgmulia]

dark side lagi tuh..

[PeLaris]

Dulu, Kini & Selamanya...

[buntalshoot]

Dulu, Kini & Selamanya...

Motto aku plak....
"Keluargaku Ahli Nikon......."

[PeLaris]

Hiduppp Nihon Kogaku \o/ ... Kwanon pemacam?