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risya
28th February 2008, 10:34 AM
Actually saya minat gambar-gambar Street Photography
tapi tak pandai..
kdgkala tak pasti adakah gambar yang diambil merupakan gambar2 street Photog?
kalau boleh komen gambar2 kat bawah ni... apa kekurangannya, mebbe blh bantu saya untuk hasilkan gambar yg lbh baik..
and tak silap penggunaan caption adalah perlu dalam street photography.. is that so?

Pic 1 : Suasana di Karachi Pakistan, yang jalanraya sentiasa sibuk dengan kenderaan
http://2.srv.fotopages.com/2/15328933/Jalanraya-yang-sibuk-Atas-bas-tu-pun-nanti-ada-orang-duduk-tau.jpg

Pic 2 : Pakistani berpakaian tradisional berjalan di tepi jalanraya, dengan sebelahnya penunggang motosikal menunggang motosikal tanpa helmet di jalanraya
http://2.srv.fotopages.com/2/15328992/Pakaian-tradisi-Pakistanidisebelahnya-motorcylist-tanpa-helmet.jpg

Pic 3 : Silhoutte @ Kuala Terengganu - Panoramic view of Pantai Batu Buruk in Kuala Terengganu
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c216/risyars/tepi-pantai2.jpg

Pic 4 : Feeding - In the morning, tourist feeding the pigeon at an open space near the bazaar in Makkah.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8941/f1de5.jpg

Pic 5 : Kasih ayah - memimpin anak agar tidak jatuh semasa meniti satu perjalanan
http://2.srv.fotopages.com/2/13390745/Kasih-ayah-memimpin-anak-agar-tidak-jatuh.jpg
thanks ya.. sesiapa yang membantu..

mypokcik
28th February 2008, 11:08 AM
yang pastinya pic #3 bukan street photography...
sebab tak ada street dan bukan di street...

cadangan krop utk pic 1.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/mypokcik/Risya2.jpg
jangan terikat pada saiz 2X3...

http://www.fotopages.com.my/forum/viewtopic.php?p=243117
http://www.fotopages.com.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4474

ikelah
28th February 2008, 11:45 AM
#5 pun tak nampak street atau unsur street walaupun ia boleh berasal dari street tetapi apabila di crop sedemikian rupa, jadi people je. :)

heroMak
28th February 2008, 12:14 PM
jadi, mesti nampak street la ehh?

photo jalanan kalu dalam bahsa melayu kan?
seolah2 kita mengambil gambo sewaktu berjalan2 di jalanan yang ada jalan dan gelagat makhluk (atau mmg terikat pada manusia sahaja?)

saya pun tak faham dan kepingin pendapat dari sekalian yg ada..

* belaja tetap belaja :)

heroMak
28th February 2008, 01:16 PM
okay... slongkar dari wikepedia..

Street photography is a type of documentary photography that features subjects in candid situations within public places such as streets, parks, beaches, malls, political conventions, and other settings.

street photography ni, gambo nyer starigh to the point..menggambarkan situasi dan keadaan sebenar di jalanan.. bla bla bla...

org lain pulak sambung... saya ni apekecer je...hiiihih

heroMak
28th February 2008, 01:24 PM
dan mungkin ada kaitan skit2 ngan photojournalism... tapi tak sama...
(memang dalam fotografi ni, mesti ada kaitang gak skit2 antara satu sama lain)

ini pulak PHOTOJOURNALISM - juga dari wikipedia..

Photojournalism is a particular form of journalism (the collecting, editing, and presenting of news material for publication or broadcast) that creates images in order to tell a news story. It is now usually understood to refer only to still images, and in some cases to video used in broadcast journalism. Photojournalism is distinguished from other close branches of photography (such as documentary photography, street photography or celebrity photography) by the qualities of:

Timeliness — the images have meaning in the context of a recently published record of events.
Objectivity — the situation implied by the images is a fair and accurate representation of the events they depict in both content and tone.
Narrative — the images combine with other news elements, to make facts relatable to the viewer or reader on a cultural level.

risya
28th February 2008, 03:40 PM
yang pastinya pic #3 bukan street photography...
sebab tak ada street dan bukan di street...

cadangan krop utk pic 1.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/mypokcik/Risya2.jpg
jangan terikat pada saiz 2X3...

http://www.fotopages.com.my/forum/viewtopic.php?p=243117
http://www.fotopages.com.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4474

ok noted. thanks!
cadangan utk crop nya bro??
neway thanks for the link.. sya suka quote Y

Y - Yours
Your shot is yours to keep. Its your own style, and at your own time and space. Emulating others can get you somewhere, but taking a picture of a picture of a picture is just overdoing it. We want to see originality. We want to find a fresh pair of eyes. We don't wanna see another Ansel Adam wanabe. Be yourself. Be your own style.

risya
28th February 2008, 04:06 PM
#5 pun tak nampak street atau unsur street walaupun ia boleh berasal dari street tetapi apabila di crop sedemikian rupa, jadi people je. :)

ok noted. nanti saya try post version full.. *kalau jumpa la...
mebbe this is better kot?
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3711/f5xp2.jpg

ikut yg bro heromak bg..
Street photography is a type of documentary photography that features subjects in candid situations within public places such as streets, parks, beaches, malls, political conventions, and other settings.

means, susah nak capture street photog ni.. kena lense panjang2.. kecuali mereka2 yg pro + berani (bersedia kena marah)
*takpe.. pelan2 kayuh.. muda lagi.. perjalanan masih panjang.. Gambatee kudasai!

risya
28th February 2008, 04:15 PM
boleh kah gambar ini diklasifikan sbg streetphotography@photojurnalism?
kalau tgk definisi macam boleh...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2238533798_61d1097027_o.jpg

so correct me if im wrong...

thanks alots ya FMDCian!

p.s MOD tanak komen apa2 ke?

heroMak
28th February 2008, 04:32 PM
juga, jangan terikat pada humans shaja..
maybe kucing kurap atau anjing liar mngorek sampah jumpa bayi terbuang juga boleh jadi subjek.

rasanya street foto ni bukan stand alone picture. ada rangkaian gambar..
kalu satu je picture, mesti betul2 mantap, baru jelas sifat street foto nyer..

ND
28th February 2008, 04:36 PM
boleh kah gambar ini diklasifikan sbg streetphotography@photojurnalism?
kalau tgk definisi macam boleh...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2238533798_61d1097027_o.jpg

so correct me if im wrong...

thanks alots ya FMDCian!

p.s MOD tanak komen apa2 ke?


Saya rasa ini bukan street photography...

heroMak
28th February 2008, 04:40 PM
saya pun rasa gitu... kekuatan gambo tu terletak pada landscape.. bukan pada candid moment subject...
dan tiada expressi serta cerita yang boleh digambarkan oleh org yg melihat...

buttet
28th February 2008, 04:46 PM
saya pun rasa sama mcm nd ia bukan street ia lebih kepada travel photography atau lanscape ..jika cik risya nak kata ini photojournalism (betui ka ejaan ku nie.. :p) cik risya quote kan story behind this picture..ehh horizon mcm senget sket kekekekeke

risya
28th February 2008, 04:56 PM
noted ND, buttet and bro heroMak..
i will try to improve...

thanks semua....

nasey
28th February 2008, 05:16 PM
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3711/f5xp2.jpg


risya..bleh tanye..gambar ni ambik kat mane?

markless
28th February 2008, 07:40 PM
haha sey..aku pun rasa macam kenal je budak tiga org tuh..mu kenal gok ke..amik kat terengganu rasanya

ikelah
28th February 2008, 11:17 PM
boleh kah gambar ini diklasifikan sbg streetphotography@photojurnalism?
kalau tgk definisi macam boleh...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2238533798_61d1097027_o.jpg

so correct me if im wrong...

thanks alots ya FMDCian!

p.s MOD tanak komen apa2 ke?

saya akan katakan street walaupun tak nampak ada jalan tetapi ia tidak semestinya bukan street kerana foto ini diambil di kawasan umum terbuka dan ada hubungan dengan tempat awam.
subjeknya jelas siluet sekumpulan 4 orang berlepakan di waktu senja/pagi dengan seorang lagi ralek memerhatikan sang matahari di satu tempat pemerhatian de tepi pantai.

my 2 sen. :)

love this shot!

zainzubir
29th February 2008, 07:34 AM
I'd advise you to join any street outing to really get the feel of it...the exchange of knowledge during outing will get you clear picture. I love street photography and the one organised by Sepol with Zainal as speaker had helped me to understand better.."apa itu sebenarnya street photography". We can read, we can attend formal class/es or probably explore ourselves but the "hands on" experience with the people who is really in that "business" is one invaluable experience. On that note..bila ada street outing jom ikut sama .... :wink: isk mana torque ni..dia kata nak buat street ..ke salah faham aunty ni..mungkin yg dimaksudkan nak buat jalan tar..maklumler nak pilihanraya ni... :P

markless
29th February 2008, 12:31 PM
adakah ini street photography jugak

http://www.markless.org/gallery/images/20080229005359_kapcai.jpg

kupih
29th February 2008, 01:11 PM
amik la nih satu...

rase macam kategori yg dibincangkan

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2212/2299751656_f647a1ed3a.jpg

risya
29th February 2008, 03:31 PM
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3711/f5xp2.jpg


risya..bleh tanye..gambar ni ambik kat mane?

kat melaka.. kenapa? ada yg dikenali ke??
pantai klebang tak silap (betul ke bro polini??)

risya
29th February 2008, 03:45 PM
saya pun rasa gitu... kekuatan gambo tu terletak pada landscape.. bukan pada candid moment subject...
dan tiada expressi serta cerita yang boleh digambarkan oleh org yg melihat...



boleh kah gambar ini diklasifikan sbg streetphotography@photojurnalism?
kalau tgk definisi macam boleh...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2238533798_61d1097027_o.jpg

so correct me if im wrong...

thanks alots ya FMDCian!

p.s MOD tanak komen apa2 ke?

saya akan katakan street walaupun tak nampak ada jalan tetapi ia tidak semestinya bukan street kerana foto ini diambil di kawasan umum terbuka dan ada hubungan dengan tempat awam.
subjeknya jelas siluet sekumpulan 4 orang berlepakan di waktu senja/pagi dengan seorang lagi ralek memerhatikan sang matahari di satu tempat pemerhatian de tepi pantai.

my 2 sen. :)

love this shot!

saya amat berterima kasih atas 2 komen ini. 2 pandangan berbeza menunjukkan bahawa sukarnya untuk saya mendefinasikan apa itu street photography.. so subjective. saya agree dengan kata-kata auntie zain, hands on experience helps alot. its just sometimes time will always b the constraint. sometimes ketika sesuatu event diorganize, kita ada komitment lain. well, walaupun org kata hendak seribu daya, tak hendak seribu dalih.. namun bagaimana nak membandingkan antara tanggungjawab + hobi?

takpe.. pelan2 kayuh.. perjalanan masih panjang.. betul tak?

risya
29th February 2008, 03:46 PM
adakah ini street photography jugak

http://www.markless.org/gallery/images/20080229005359_kapcai.jpg

boleh tanya, apakah yg cuba disampaikan dalam gambar ini? tq

rozinorazali
29th February 2008, 03:54 PM
salam...
nak juga mendapatkan komen dan kritikan dari pakar street ni...
aku mmg berminat nak menuju kearah foto jalanan ni...
pada yang berilmu tu, blehlah kiranya memberitahu serba sedikit kekurangan foto yang aku tembak ni...
dlm topik ke?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/anajin/SF-1-1.jpg

ps: bole ke aku bukak topik baru utk foto jalanan yang aku tembak, blh juga dpt maklumbalas dari kacau topik org, takut menganggu pulak...

nasey
29th February 2008, 04:16 PM
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3711/f5xp2.jpg


risya..bleh tanye..gambar ni ambik kat mane?

kat melaka.. kenapa? ada yg dikenali ke??
pantai klebang tak silap (betul ke bro polini??)


ohh kat melaka..ahahaha ok ok :)

nasey
29th February 2008, 04:17 PM
salam...
nak juga mendapatkan komen dan kritikan dari pakar street ni...
aku mmg berminat nak menuju kearah foto jalanan ni...
pada yang berilmu tu, blehlah kiranya memberitahu serba sedikit kekurangan foto yang aku tembak ni...
dlm topik ke?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/anajin/SF-1-1.jpg

ps: bole ke aku bukak topik baru utk foto jalanan yang aku tembak, blh juga dpt maklumbalas dari kacau topik org, takut menganggu pulak...


bukak je :) taruk byk2 gitu gambar..nak tengok nih bro :) hehe

kupih
29th February 2008, 04:33 PM
salam...
nak juga mendapatkan komen dan kritikan dari pakar street ni...
aku mmg berminat nak menuju kearah foto jalanan ni...
pada yang berilmu tu, blehlah kiranya memberitahu serba sedikit kekurangan foto yang aku tembak ni...
dlm topik ke?


ps: bole ke aku bukak topik baru utk foto jalanan yang aku tembak, blh juga dpt maklumbalas dari kacau topik org, takut menganggu pulak...

wakakakak... entah la labu

rozinorazali
29th February 2008, 04:56 PM
salam..


salam...
nak juga mendapatkan komen dan kritikan dari pakar street ni...
aku mmg berminat nak menuju kearah foto jalanan ni...
pada yang berilmu tu, blehlah kiranya memberitahu serba sedikit kekurangan foto yang aku tembak ni...
dlm topik ke?

ps: bole ke aku bukak topik baru utk foto jalanan yang aku tembak, blh juga dpt maklumbalas dari kacau topik org, takut menganggu pulak...

wakakakak... entah la labu
entah tu apa labu?

heroMak
29th February 2008, 05:04 PM
start la ..

start la street foto... bleh amik gambo budak2... :?:

kupih
29th February 2008, 05:30 PM
salam..


salam...
nak juga mendapatkan komen dan kritikan dari pakar street ni...
aku mmg berminat nak menuju kearah foto jalanan ni...
pada yang berilmu tu, blehlah kiranya memberitahu serba sedikit kekurangan foto yang aku tembak ni...
dlm topik ke?

ps: bole ke aku bukak topik baru utk foto jalanan yang aku tembak, blh juga dpt maklumbalas dari kacau topik org, takut menganggu pulak...

wakakakak... entah la labu
entah tu apa labu?


tong kosong la labu....

shutterhack
29th February 2008, 09:48 PM
Memberi satu definisi yang terlalu ketat untuk Street Photography akan hanya melimitkan kelebihan genre tersebut yang sememang asalnya "free, liberated and non-uniform" in nature.

Kesudahannya setiap Street Photographer akan mempunyai definisi masing-masing yang tersendiri sesuai dengan approach dan personality masing-masing.

Objektif atau matlamat seseorang Street Photographer itu yang akan menentukan flavour street photography yang dihidangkan. Ada yang sekadar ingin mendokumentasikan apa yang terpapar dihadapannya secara jujur. Manakala yang satu pihak lkagi akan menambah ciri-ciri artistic atau aesthetic iaitu memaparkan interpretasi photographer itu sendiri terhadap apa yang dihadapannya. Some doing it just for the fun of it... like simply snap, snap, snap they go.

Diatas ni hanyalah sekadar pendapat saya yang tak seberapa ni sebab issue yang dibangkitkan agak subjektif walaupun tidak terlalu subjektif. Dibawah saya paparkan beberapa contoh. (N/B: All those photos weren't shot by me) :cry:

....mendokumentasikan apa yang terpapar dihadapannya secara jujur
http://www.in-public.com/store/image/file/1215/30.jpg

menambah ciri-ciri artistic atau aesthetic iaitu memaparkan interpretasi photographer itu sendiri terhadap apa yang dihadapannya
http://www.in-public.com/store/image/file/1506/10.jpg

torque
1st March 2008, 12:16 AM
menambah ciri-ciri artistic atau aesthetic iaitu memaparkan interpretasi photographer itu sendiri terhadap apa yang dihadapannya
http://www.in-public.com/store/image/file/1506/10.jpg


That's the work of Trent Parke...one of my favorite photographer.
Kadang kala dia akan berada di satu spot selama yg diperlukan (pada tempoh waktu tertentu dlm sehari - utk mendapat pengcahayaan yg dihajati) sehinggalah shot yg dia kehendaki akhirnya dapat di "compose".
He's cool!

The subject of Street Photography is very erkk...subjective! :mrgreen:
Tetapi setiap photographer pastinya ada memiliki "style" tersendiri....

risya
1st March 2008, 08:45 AM
statement ni "Some doing it just for the fun of it... like simply snap, snap, snap they go." sangatlah cool.. hehe..
and statement ni "memaparkan interpretasi photographer itu sendiri terhadap apa yang dihadapannya".. saya stuju sangatla..
senang sikit hati saya membaca statement ni.. takde la pressure sgt kalau nak shoot anything .. hehe..
alangkah bestnya kalau sudah memiliki style sendiri.. bila orang tgk gmbar.. dorang tahu itu gambar kita..

terima kasih atas komen yg diberikan...
bro torque+bro shutterhack... jom TT?

torque
1st March 2008, 10:29 AM
salams,

the statement "...just doing it for fun of it, like simply snap, snap snap they go" as mentioned by bro shutterhack and others, is really cool and partly true.
pardon me! bukan nak kata ianya salah, tidak!
let's just put it like this....
when a seasoned or professional person is behind the viewfinder, the arts is already natural. composition - rules to use, rules to break, clean vs crowded, wide vs tight, case by case basis depending on the story he/ she is trying to tell, just comes natural.
untuk kita memiliki "style" tersendiri kita kena faham dulu rules, kemudian baru kita boleh mampu break the rules and use it to create our own style.
the statement above does not mean you can just simply shoot and be at par with the likes of Chris Morris, James Nachtwey, Joachim Ladefoged, Gary Knight, the late Alexandra Boulat, Trent Parke, Jimin Lai and many other....
we have to develop our skills and style, not just relying on "luck" to get that decisive moment...a-la Cartier-Bresson!

InsyaAllah we can achieve it, we already have the passion anyway! Just have to be focus and select the proper path.

TT? I am off to Sepang in a while actually!

torque
1st March 2008, 10:55 AM
......On that note..bila ada street outing jom ikut sama .... :wink: isk mana torque ni..dia kata nak buat street ..ke salah faham aunty ni..mungkin yg dimaksudkan nak buat jalan tar..maklumler nak pilihanraya ni...

Haikkkss!!! Tak perasan pulak ada nama saya digunapakai dlm thread ni...sekaaallii!!! Patutlaa semenjak duamenjak ni saya selalu tersedak2!
Maaf la Auntie! Kerja terlalu demanding....kemra buruk tu pun dah hampir beku dah sebab dah lama tak dpt outing!
Alaa Aunite, pergi jer la join Agong & kawan2 dia, bukan takat buat street, buat highway sekalli laaa!! :mrgreen:

zainzubir
1st March 2008, 11:14 AM
very naughty of you torque..adake ngan agong?cehhh..jom aaarr..we organise one fine day kita pastikan risya is available tidak penuh dgn komitmen ngalah hanty yg anak dua ni dan jaga mak ler pulop...heh..heh....jom arr cari street yang ada caramel ice blended halal.. :lol:

risya
1st March 2008, 08:26 PM
very naughty of you torque..adake ngan agong?cehhh..jom aaarr..we organise one fine day kita pastikan risya is available tidak penuh dgn komitmen ngalah hanty yg anak dua ni dan jaga mak ler pulop...heh..heh....jom arr cari street yang ada caramel ice blended halal..

betul betul betul (baca macam ipin cakap)..
walaupun risya ni single.. mmg komitmen byk.. maklumla sya ni kan anak kpd someone and pekerja harapan kpd someone..kena dgr ckp dorang.. lainla auntie tu dia boss besar.. semua org dgr ckp dia.. :lol:
ala bro torque.. stakat setiawangsa-sepang tu kalau jalan tak jem.. 1/2 pun bleh bikin.. janji ada org tolong settlekan saman.. :lol: sya pun ada kat seri putra td..
apa-apa pun bila2 turun KL... pm me k.. thanks

ni kira OT ke? ampun ya MOD...

arulz
1st March 2008, 08:43 PM
more pic.. nk blajo lashot org secara unformal nih...mean bkn model2...ala2 street la tuh..hih..de komentar cmnih...pembelajarn lbh cpt.. :lol: ,gmbr yg bnyk kurang tu buat kitalbh nmpk...klo gmbr2 otai nih, nmpk beh jer slalu.. :lol:

Kavalera
3rd March 2008, 12:07 AM
Cube sket..

http://lh5.google.com/kavalera/R5zC86Cd21I/AAAAAAAACAI/3WpO1r7eclY/s640/DSC_4474.JPG
I want to go away...

Nih street photography?

shutterhack
3rd March 2008, 01:00 AM
Cube sket..
I want to go away...
Nih street photography?
Kalau photographer tu dok atas street boleh lah dikira street jugak gamaknya... hehe :roll:

arulz
3rd March 2008, 02:09 AM
nak test gak la..komen sket..

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r318/syazrul_album/stshot.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r318/syazrul_album/runnercarwash.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r318/syazrul_album/aweks.jpg

respon sket..i wanna improve.. :lol: :lol:

buttet
3rd March 2008, 02:18 AM
kekek macam ku kenali aja gambar itu .. :P..tapi mengdapatkan sesuatu yang dirancangkan adakah dikira street photography?adakah street photography mementingkan komposition , pengcahayaan atau moment untuk gambar itu? atau adakah main snap snap snap

minta jawapan semua :P

masih belajar nie

shutterhack
3rd March 2008, 02:25 AM
nak test gak la..komen sket..
respon sket..i wanna improve..

Kenapa aspect ratio dia nampak pelik aja macam kena stretched vertically lepas you cropped? :?
Saya rasa you cropped tak ikut aspect ratio sebelum resized back to the original aspect ratio... just a guess

buttet
3rd March 2008, 02:35 AM
arul gambo no 2 aplikasikan rule of third ghasanya memberi impak

arulz
3rd March 2008, 02:42 AM
nak test gak la..komen sket..
respon sket..i wanna improve..

Kenapa aspect ratio dia nampak pelik aja macam kena stretched vertically lepas you cropped? :?
Saya rasa you cropped tak ikut aspect ratio sebelum resized back to the original aspect ratio... just a guess

adeh..dh agak dah..tu mmg silap saye... :oops: , ms tu x tau lg crop resize tekan shift..hehe..lain2 bro..smpai ke msg street tu..cth pd gambar pompuan tegelak tu..leh kire x?

arulz
3rd March 2008, 02:44 AM
arul gambo no 2 aplikasikan rule of third ghasanya memberi impak

ok mr buttet....mase tu gigil pegang kamera pnjm..wakakaka :oops:

torque
3rd March 2008, 02:58 AM
Salams,
Pandangan saya la yg masih berguru dgn beberapa org guru...
1.
Seorang yg ahli & pensyarah dalam bidang photografi pernah memberitahu bahawa street photography adalah mengenai perkara yg berlaku di tempat-tempat awam khasnya di kaki lima & jalanan (Lebih kurang mcm tu la kalau dlm lughotal-malawiyyah) :mrgreen: It is about the happenings on the streets, unplanned, candid shots of people or any living beings on the streets doing the stuff they are doing.

2.
Everyshot is about all composition but sadly, understanding composition is something most of aspiring photographers tend to lack the effort!! Generally, aspiring photographer nowadays seems to be more concerned with the equipments they have or want to have and put less effort to learn & improve their compositions with whatever equipments they have in hand.

3.
Snap-snap-snap = snapshots = you will never learn nor discipline yourself to be a good photographer = stop kidding yourself!
If you are lucky, the shot can turn out nice....if not, you are wasting your time. Memang ada pro street photography yg kata dia just walk the street and snap tapiiii yg kita tak dgr & tak baca tentang mereka mungkin mereka dah berpuluh tahun melakukan begitu, hakikatnya composition berlaku dgn otomatis tanpa perlu dirancang & berfikir aspect teknikal tentang composition.
Hmm...mcm bawak kereta la....bila baru start, nak masuk gear pun kena tgk gear handle! Bila dah terer, pejam mata pun bleh up & down shift, siap bleh main heel & toe lagi tuh!

4.
Apa-apa pun, kalau subject tak menarik, supporting elements tak ada interaksi dgn subject & sesama sendiri, background tak sesuai, technical aspects tak semenggah...apa dia cerita yg boleh orang faham bila tgk gambar tu? Kalau orang tak faham, camana nak dikatakan shot tersebut best?

Pendapat saya ajer la...

shutterhack
3rd March 2008, 03:55 AM
Just some cropping suggestions

Crop suggestion 1
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2963/01tt9.jpg

Crop suggestion 2
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4025/02jf3.jpg

With regard to street photography I honestly feel that this photo on its own just doesn't quite make the par. Kalau in a series of foto-foto lain mungkin boleh diterima. It looks like an uncomplete story. But on the other hand the audience pun boleh jadi subject jugak.

arulz
3rd March 2008, 04:13 AM
wadhih jiddan..thanx pd yg sudi sharing...pd torque, gue akan cuba cari lg shot2 baik utk street nih...mmg mnt sbnrnye street ni tp jrg dpt idea nk shot cmner...practise make better...bro shutterhack mekasih suggestion tuh... :lol:

risya
3rd March 2008, 11:27 AM
Crop suggestion 2
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4025/02jf3.jpg

With regard to street photography I honestly feel that this photo on its own just doesn't quite make the par. Kalau in a series of foto-foto lain mungkin boleh diterima. It looks like an uncomplete story. But on the other hand the audience pun boleh jadi subject jugak.

sya agree dgn bro shutterhack.. my opinion.. adalah lbh baik kalau kita tahu apa yg dorang tgk.. luaskan skop lensa to capture apa yg menarik perhatian dorang..
macam gambar ni, orang yg tgk gmbar ni akan tertanya-tanya apa yg dorang tgk..
(pendapat sya jela.. jgn marah ek arulz) :wink:

shutterhack
3rd March 2008, 01:41 PM
Mungkin arulz tengah aim awek yang tersenyum manis ni... sampai lupa the whole story.. :wink:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2963/01tt9.jpg

heroMak
3rd March 2008, 01:46 PM
gambar itu tight sangat...
kasi loose skit...
kasi wide skit..

:)

arulz
3rd March 2008, 02:01 PM
Mungkin arulz tengah aim awek yang tersenyum manis ni... sampai lupa the whole story.. :wink:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2963/01tt9.jpg

uiks..jgn la pecah lobang bro..ekekekeke :oops:

risya
3rd March 2008, 02:51 PM
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3231/f4hi1.jpg
Caption : Fight to Survive - In the busy-ness of Orchard Road Singapore, this man was seen collecting tin from the waste bin. Perhaps, this is what he does to continue his living in the modern Singapore

sya actually try nak cramp kan gmbar dengan pelbagai cerita. which is the guy yg collect something from the bin, mereka yg lalu lalang kat situ tanpa memperdulikan dia.. and stamp kat lantai tu yg bertulis ORCHARD ROAD Singapore..
tapi saya menyedari gambar ini tidak menarik... (hasil komen beberapa orang sebelum ini)..

persoalannya : bagaimana menjadikan gmbar ni lbh baik and menarik ? coz saya rasa gambar ni dah ada cerita..

thanks thanks in advance pd yg memberi komen.. and pendapat..

heroMak
3rd March 2008, 02:57 PM
gambar buleh dibantu jadi menarik bila apply rules yang terlibat..

contohnya, rule of third..
tong kunin tu dah menyerlah dek warna nya.. so, hanya compose supaya ia duduk pada tumpuan mata..bukan di tengah2..

lagi, ada teknik2 lain, macam slow shutter, yang bakal menimbulkan motion..

dan banyak lagi la... sbb tu torque kata, kalau yang dah pro, dia main snap2 je..sbb dia dah biasa ngan rules n teknik...
macam kita yang terkial2 ni, mmg kena kemaskan diri dulu la sblum snap (tu pun, kalu nak gambo berhasil la).

akhir kata : tak perlu pegi tabika KEMAS utk kemaskan diri ngan ilmu fotografi...kekeekke

risya
3rd March 2008, 04:00 PM
thanks bro...

saya dulu tak g tabika kemas.. g tadika cina.. itupun tak grad... :D

buttet
3rd March 2008, 04:03 PM
ghasa ada banyak semak untuk menguatkan subject ini..just simplekan lagi

shutterhack
3rd March 2008, 06:50 PM
Too many distractions that drives away the viewers attention from the main subject. MUngkin kalau improve composition akan give better impact

torque
4th March 2008, 01:43 AM
Salams,

Taiko Buttet & shutterhack telah memberi input yg direct & tepat!

Kalau kena dgn guru2 saya, mereka akan katakan composition ini kurang "clean". (Lepas tu mereka akan hentak meja, baling pinggan ke arah saya & jentik telinga saya 3-4 pump)

Tak salah untuk menonjolkan crowd & suasana sibuk tetapi apabila supporting elements telah terlampau menguasai frame, main subject jadi tenggelam.
The use of photography rules can help - contohnya leading lines, R03 yg biasa diperkatakan - to make the composition much attractive and acceptable to the eyes. Bila main subject terserlah, supporting elements membantu menyampaikan cerita & keseluruhan composition mengandungi cerita yg jelas, maka ianya sebuah composition yg berjaya.

Try lagi Sya!...Apambalik jgn lupa yeh!:wink:

shutterhack
4th March 2008, 02:25 AM
Salams,

Taiko Buttet & shutterhack telah memberi input yg direct & tepat!

Kalau kena dgn guru2 saya, mereka akan katakan composition ini kurang "clean". (Lepas tu mereka akan hentak meja, baling pinggan ke arah saya & jentik telinga saya 3-4 pump)

Tak salah untuk menonjolkan crowd & suasana sibuk tetapi apabila supporting elements telah terlampau menguasai frame, main subject jadi tenggelam.
The use of photography rules can help - contohnya leading lines, R03 yg biasa diperkatakan - to make the composition much attractive and acceptable to the eyes. Bila main subject terserlah, supporting elements membantu menyampaikan cerita & keseluruhan composition mengandungi cerita yg jelas, maka ianya sebuah composition yg berjaya.

Try lagi Sya!...Apambalik jgn lupa yeh!:wink:

Always a pleasure abang torque! Pos laju kan se juring apambalik tu ke Kuala Terengganu. :wink:

torque
4th March 2008, 03:22 AM
Heheh!! Jenuh la Sya kena hantar apambalik ke Shutterhack plak!

Maaf ya, bukan la saya ni perasan best ke apa tapi hanya nak kongsi apa yg saya pelajari.....

Here's a sample of a clean shot - one main subject, one supporting element, in conflicting background - street shot series by me in 2007
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1010/670202500_b31db75ab6.jpg
~ A guy reading a sheet of text, next to a Missing Person poster.

...a sample of crowded composition, busy elements surrounding an outstanding main subject
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h19/torqxic/ConflictinglyHarmonious1.jpg
~ A Muslim lady waiting for the opening of Anya Hindmarch Boutique, KLCC Malaysia.

...another sample of crowd surrounding a main subject can be seen here: Torque (http://kampungpath.blogspot.com/2007/06/street-life-2007-v2.html)
~Gambar terakhir dalam blogentry tersebut. saya tak boleh letak gambar tu selain di situ sahaja sebab dah janji dgn main subject saya hanya guna di site saya....juga terdapat shot2 street bersama EXIF & penerangan tentang shots yg dipamerkan....

risya
6th March 2008, 11:09 AM
Try lagi Sya!...Apambalik jgn lupa yeh!:wink:

Always a pleasure abang torque! Pos laju kan se juring apambalik tu ke Kuala Terengganu. :wink:

bro torque.. noted... ptg ni g balik jhr nak undi.. nnt sya try lagi..
apam balik ek? mana sedap kat kl ni? btw...meh la dtg kl bro shutterhack.. pos pos ni karang ada kena keracunan :mrgreen:

ian
25th March 2008, 02:08 PM
nak join gak la..topik yang best untuk di ketengahkan..

who's looking?
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x90/ian_ahmad/layar%20tanchap040108/IMG_3791.jpg
Crowd is watching a life painting by an artist in Shah Alam, Malaysia.

my version of mysterious girl
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x90/ian_ahmad/layar%20tanchap040108/IMG_3785.jpg
An artist, re-drawing a face of girl

helping hands
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x90/ian_ahmad/layar%20tanchap040108/IMG_3779.jpg

conflict!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x90/ian_ahmad/layar%20tanchap040108/IMG_3718.jpg

gambar2 ini telah diambil pada Layar Tanchap yg lepas..dan kebayakkannya, saya menggunakan cara "defensive stage" memandangkan tempat yang hendak di ambil pun tak la besar dan amat sesuai sekali jika dibandingkan dengan "offensive stage". elemen utama yang saya rakamkan ialah "SHADOW" (bayangan) dimana saya menggunakan "SHADOW" sebagai "supporting element" bagi "main subject" dan vice versa la...