NEW! | Apple Combo : Notebook + Desktop

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Apple Computer baru sahaja melancarkan produk line notebook terbaru mereka Macbook dan Macbook Pro serta monitor Cinema Display semalam...

yang paling menarik ialah Macbook / Macbook Pro + Cinema Display. notebook+laptop integrated... ( USD 2499 + USD899 = +-RM 11900 ) :D

[arm_sudoh]

11k, ulpssss
kempunan den

[tembeling]

Spec dia OK ke?
Kalau spec notebook tak mboh lah...

[pitouch]

bun .... agak2 bilo masuk malaysia nieh ..?

[buntalshoot]

Spec dia OK ke?
Kalau spec notebook tak mboh lah...


spec macbook pro memang mantap kali nie... dia pakai nvidia graphic card.... bodi besi... heeee
memang sesuai utk kerja2 berat... cinema display tu, dia just plug in jer... otomatik dia caj macbook tu dan performance maintain...
takpayah nak pasang2 kabel bila nak dapatkan performance desktop kat macbook pro...

mungkin sebab tu, apple masih pending kuarkan model 17in... cukup ngan 15in, klu nak portable senang.. biler nak dapatkan
dektop performance dan feel view yg lebih besar... leh attach kat cinema display...


pit, masuk mesia.. tp klu mengikut kebiasaannya apple dalam tempoh satu bulan baru masuk mesia... tp tatau la kot lagi awal...

[tembeling]

Boleh lawan iMac ke? Tapi 15" too big utk portability.....since dah tak portable, baik angkat iMac aje

[buntalshoot]

imac tu lain liga... tp klu nak compare jugak..

processor: Imac (ups to 3.06ghz, market 2.8ghz), macbook pro (2.8ghz, market 2.53 ghz)
graphic card : macbook pro (nvidia gforce 512), Imac (Ati Radeon 256)
memory standard : macbook pro (4gb), imac (2gb)
Hardisk : macbook pro (uption 120gb SSD), imac (none SSD)
portable : macbook pro
desktop + portable : macbook pro
Connection : imac (2 firewire + 5 usb), macbook pro (2 USB, no firewire)

[buntalshoot]

Boleh lawan iMac ke? Tapi 15" too big utk portability.....since dah tak portable, baik angkat iMac aje

mac sasaran nyer utk pengguna dalam bidang kreatif, klu skrin kecik, sasau jugak nak meneropong tu(skrin besar benefit utk DTP dan Video Editing) ... heeeee.. option terbaik utk portability bleh pakai macbook atau iphone... ekekeke..... imac pon ok... tp klu macbook pro.. memang direka utk pengguna yg boleh bawak laptop utk jalan2... balik umah leh concentrate kat screen besar pulak... tp klu nak compare harga, memang harga imac jauh lebih murah...

[pitouch]

aku rasa nak meneropong macbook jek la .... sekadar memudahkan kerja untuk kerja outstation ... pasal kerja2 berat dah mmg dok belasah imac jek ... kalo nak amik macbook pro tapi editing dok wat kat imac jek tak guna gak .....

so vote for macbook ....kuang ..kuang ... kuang .....

apa pervezaan yg ketara antara macbook lama ngan yg baru ye selain dari aluminium casing nie ?

[buntalshoot]

aku rasa nak meneropong macbook jek la .... sekadar memudahkan kerja untuk kerja outstation ... pasal kerja2 berat dah mmg dok belasah imac jek ... kalo nak amik macbook pro tapi editing dok wat kat imac jek tak guna gak .....

so vote for macbook ....kuang ..kuang ... kuang .....

apa pervezaan yg ketara antara macbook lama ngan yg baru ye selain dari aluminium casing nie ?

perbezaan yg ketara ialah kelajuan graphic card dia...
lagi satu multi touch trackpad dan keyboard dia sama cam macbook air
mini display port (teknologi terbaru dalam industri dimana leh connect ke rangkaian LED Cinema Display)
monitor dia skrang dah LED Backlit, dulu TFT
Option to upgrade SSD hardisk, dimana ketahanan bateri yg lebih lama, berbanding hardisk biasa.
petunjuk bateri fizikal (batery indicator).. kat bahagian depan..
system bus dia dah boast ke 1066Mhz (lama 800mhz)

tu jer ler... yg lain2... nanti aku tanya korang lak... asyik aku jer yg jawab... ingat aku keja epal ker... heeeeee

[buntalshoot]

ok.. ni nak tanya nie...

asal Apple dah tak taruh firewire ahhh???? why? why? :(

[msharq]

ok.. ni nak tanya nie...

asal Apple dah tak taruh firewire ahhh???? why? why? :(

logiknya sebab..... USB nih universal, so firewire dah tak beberapa praktikal...walaupun kelajuan firewire lebih tinggi dari USB.

sekian...

[FaizaLOrcA]

11K ... kopak kopak poket. tapi nampak menarik ni ......

[mkrash]

ok.. ni nak tanya nie...

asal Apple dah tak taruh firewire ahhh???? why? why? :(

logiknya sebab..... USB nih universal, so firewire dah tak beberapa praktikal...walaupun kelajuan firewire lebih tinggi dari USB.

sekian...


USB 2.1 full spec 480 MB dah nak sama ngan Firewire

[tembeling]

Boleh lawan iMac ke? Tapi 15" too big utk portability.....since dah tak portable, baik angkat iMac aje

mac sasaran nyer utk pengguna dalam bidang kreatif, klu skrin kecik, sasau jugak nak meneropong tu(skrin besar benefit utk DTP dan Video Editing) ... heeeee.. option terbaik utk portability bleh pakai macbook atau iphone... ekekeke..... imac pon ok... tp klu macbook pro.. memang direka utk pengguna yg boleh bawak laptop utk jalan2... balik umah leh concentrate kat screen besar pulak... tp klu nak compare harga, memang harga imac jauh lebih murah...

Kalau camtu, saya kena pakai Windowslah sebab saya bukan kreatif :(

[buntalshoot]

ok.. ni nak tanya nie...

asal Apple dah tak taruh firewire ahhh???? why? why? :(

logiknya sebab..... USB nih universal, so firewire dah tak beberapa praktikal...walaupun kelajuan firewire lebih tinggi dari USB.

sekian...

saper kata tak praktikal?

kat macbook pro masih ada satu slot utk firewire 800 :wink:

cuma kat macbook sajer takde....

[buntalshoot]

Kalau camtu, saya kena pakai Windowslah sebab saya bukan kreatif :(

ala tomeinyaa dia buat muka macammm... heeeeee

[buntalshoot]

USB 2.1 full spec 480 MB dah nak sama ngan Firewire

ini jawapan dari CEO Apple, Steve Job. Sebab2 kenapa Apple limitkan firewire... dan sebab2 mengapa pengguna apple tak setuju dengan penggantian firewire kepada USB port.


Well I posted in another thread that Steve Jobs had emailed me back when I complained.

And before anyone says anything I know it won't be him, it'll be some representative towing the party line so to speak, and here for your reading pleasure is the thread in full, I think I've pissed off whoever I was emailing.

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That may well be so, but that doesn't really help consumers who have invested in perfectly working DV equipment who are given the option of, reasonably priced mac notebook and new camera, expensive mac notebook keep old working camera, or cheap generic PC. And with belt buckles being tight all around the world that isn't a good scenario.

Plus what about all the educational facilities that teach FCP, many of my friends who went to film school were taught this program, and therefore got macs to use is on. I guess that alot of these schools are heavily invested in DV and HDV equipment that uses firewire. Many of these students won't have the money for a pro model notebook and may need firewire, so they could end up with a dodgy PC running Premiere Pro, and these are the people who in the years to come will be making the decision over what software and hardware to work on.

Audio institutes could follow the same route, advising their students to get a PC just because you can use the Digi003 or MTU 828 on there, something that is no longer possible on the entry level mac notebook.

Again just my opinion, and it's all getting a bit too nostrodamused for my own liking, but this lack of feature could have consequences in years to come.

Myca

On 14 Oct 2008, at 23:26, Steve Jobs wrote:

The new digital camcorders that use USB are quite superior to the prior generations and feature full HD sensors and digital video output.

Steve



On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Myca wrote:

Well thank you for possibly the most lamest of responses possible, I guess the fact that many new camcorders now using an inferior (and heavily compressed file format) USB interface won't bother the many many people who've invested in DV equipment.

"new camcorder and macbook, or mackbook pro, or something by the enemy at a third of the price that works with the equipment I own?"

And I'd hate to think of all those college students having to maybe switch to another NLE just to be able to upload content at an affordable price.

But meh, what do I know, I'm just an end user


On 14 Oct 2008, at 21:32, Steve Jobs wrote:

Most digital camcorders have switched to USB and many have already dropped Firewire.

Steve



On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Myca wrote:

Greetings Steve,

Well the geek in me just stopped what I was doing to check out the new notebooks, and what can I say but "Where's the FIrewire"

Part of me is thinking that maybe someone made a mistake somewhere and forgot to cross that off the checklist, or maybe there's some magical device in the new notebooks that allows the use of Firewire wirelessly.

Like my subject says, no Firewire no iLife.

So here's a few reason that I think someone's been spiking Apples Kool-Aid

1. What's the point of including iMovie if the end user cannot transfer video from their DV camcorder.

2. Target Disk mode (yeah I know USB, but not as good)

3. FCP and express, read 1

4. Transferring from an old mac, like say an iBook G4, gotta do it over the slower ethernet now, or get an external drive

I think that with dropping Firewire part of the, well I guess old school, creative market will be alienated and frustrated after alot have invested heavily in Hard Drives, Audio interfaces, Decks, all with FIrewire, and now we have to pay that extra special premium just for a few components that cost pennies.

I myself am a musician and Audio engineer, so I wouldn't touch another USB audio interface with a barge-pole, but come my next need of a notebook I'll have the choice taken from me and have to go MBP, when personally I like the form factor of the 13.3" MB.

Any way enough of my moaning, I best get back to doing some work, oh and by the way cheers for all the cool gear and software that's kept me busy.

P.S. does Applecare cover loss of hearing when previewing a processed mono file in Soundtrack Pro 2?, Yeah sorry the apps not ready for professional use yet, and it pains me to have to boot into Windows just to use a good wave editor, it's so close too

Yours flummoxed and bemused

Myca

[ND]

Sometimes it's about practicality...ramai org guna USB..most hardwares guna USB...
aku rasa diorang pun dah buat survey about firewire vs usb...maybe 100 org ckp nak guna firewire..tapi 1000 users yg lain kata guna usb...
So, dari market survey camtu, diorang dah tau apa jawapannya. Diorang kan buat bisnes, takkan diorang nak buat bisnes dgn market 100 users tu je.
This is business, in the end, the profit that counts.

Lagipun Apple kan dah mula masuk competitive market ni. Maksudnya, Apple berjaya menarik perhatian pengguna laptop/notebook Windows kepada Apple Mac.
Bila dah ramai org berhijrah kepada MAC, ramai yg tak kisah dgn function firewire. Yg penting, ada USB port. Sebab apa? sbb diorang baru guna MAC.

Bagi aku, setiap company ada target market diorang tersendiri. Apple nak buat macbook jadi user friendly utk windows users berhijrah kepada MAC.
Dalam diam2, Apple dah berjaya mencapai target market nya. Bila dah capai target market, diorang akan dapat untung yg besar hasil jualan volume yg tinggi.
Bila diorang dpt keuntungan, diorang akan terus mencipta sesuatu yg lebih hebat pada masa akan datang utk kemudahan kita semua.

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Sometimes it's about practicality...ramai org guna USB..most hardwares guna USB...
aku rasa diorang pun dah buat survey about firewire vs usb...maybe 100 org ckp nak guna firewire..tapi 1000 users yg lain kata guna usb...
So, dari market survey camtu, diorang dah tau apa jawapannya. Diorang kan buat bisnes, takkan diorang nak buat bisnes dgn market 100 users tu je.
This is business, in the end, the profit that counts.



memang betul kebanyakannya hardware baru dah mula guna usb.. tetapi apa akan jadi ngan pengguna2 imovie?(entry level software video editing utk beginer), firewire satu2nya connection yang ada utk capture format video dari DV cam... USB bukanlah yang terbaik utk transfer video format dari DV camera kerana kualiti akan drop apabila di transfer menggunakan usb. Banyak lagi peranti2 pro dan amatur terutama sesiapa yang terlibat dalam bidang audio video editing, peralatannya sumer menggunakan connection firewire. takkan Apple nak abaikan pengguna2 yg telah lama semata2 nak kejar pengguna baru...

tp ada betul jugak mengapa derang wat camtu, mungkin nak asingkan macbook utk pengguna baru dan macbook pro utk pengguna lama... tapi masih ramai pengguna lama belum bersedia utk berhijrah ke macbook pro di atas sebab faktor harga yang mahal.. lagipun ada yg berpendapat, baik guna PC yang murah yg ada FW daripada dok beli macboook yg takde FW, apatah lagi nak beli macbook pro yg rega nyer berlipat2 kali ganda. Lg satu, takkan apple tak wat research kot kenapa derang still bundlekan software imovie dalam pakej macbook yg baru... no point... takleh guna gak sbb connection antara kamera ngan imovie tetap guna firewire... kesimpulannya ramai yg frust kenapa macbook takde FW, tak kira la dia pengguna mac tegar ke atau baru nak berhijrah ke mac... sbb setau aku orang guna PC pon capture video guna FW(iLink)...

[pitouch]

huhuhu ... sib baik wat masa sekrng aku masih tak memerlukan sgt FW ....

apa yg ND ckp ada betulnya .... rasanya Apple kali ni mempunyai target kepada marketing strategy mereka yang mana rata-rata rasanya lebih memerlukan USB berbanding FW ... lagipun steve job sndr ckp "Most digital camcorders have switched to USB and many have already dropped Firewire." .... sejauh mana kebenarannya .... ? aku tak buat movie2 nie.... kekekeee

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huhuhu ... sib baik wat masa sekrng aku masih tak memerlukan sgt FW ....

apa yg ND ckp ada betulnya .... rasanya Apple kali ni mempunyai target kepada marketing strategy mereka yang mana rata-rata rasanya lebih memerlukan USB berbanding FW ... lagipun steve job sndr ckp "Most digital camcorders have switched to USB and many have already dropped Firewire." .... sejauh mana kebenarannya .... ? aku tak buat movie2 nie.... kekekeee



Mac dari dulu memang guna USB, bukannya baru menggantikan FW kepada USB... jadi tak salah kalau satu port FW disediakan kerna majoriti pengguna lama masih menggunakan peralatan yg mempunyai sambungan FW, mereka Apple juga perlu ingat, derang adalah pencipta FW dan bertanggungjawab mempopularkan sambungan ini kepada pembuat peralatan2 pro/studio utk mengadaptasikan penggunaan ke atas produk2 mereka ....

macbook utk semua, bukan utk photographer sahaja.. jadi mereka perlu fikir kesan dari ketiadaan sambungan FW... mungkin tu satu strategi perniagaan, tp kesilapan mencatur strategi akan merugikan mereka... cheewahh.. cam pandai jer aku ni bab marketing.... ekekeke.... tp takperlah, kepada pengguna tegar FW, macbook bukanlah pilihan terbaik utk mereka... bak kata orang tua2, bunga bukan sekuntum, kumbang bukan seekor.... eheheh

[ND]

Betul ckp buntalshoot tu...
Tapi mungkin juga Apple berpendapat kalau nak edit movie, lebih baik guna iMac.
Macbook or Macbookpro lebih kepada mobile.
Mungkin juga strategy nya adalah utk lebih byk menjual iMac setanding dgn jualan Macbook or Macbookpro.
Mungkin sbb tu diorang sengaja keluarkan FW Macbook sbb terlalu kecil utk edit movie.
Ataupun capability tak seberapa. Entah, saya pun tatau.

Mungkin juga FW punya accessories ada dijual. Diorang nak asingkan pulak...entah..hehe

Dan mungkin juga diorang nak jadikan compact, sampaikan takde space utk letak FW.

[pitouch]

bak kata orang tua2, bunga bukan sekuntum, kumbang bukan seekor.... eheheh

takkan bun nak cari bunga lain pasal takdo FW jek kot ..... kekekekekekekek .....

amik la Macbook Pro , jgn amik macbook ........ bunga mawar kan lebih baik dari bunga kertas .....hehehehhe

[tembeling]

Apa hardware yg korang pakai firewire ni? Saya ada camcorder je.

[buntalshoot]

Apa hardware yg korang pakai firewire ni? Saya ada camcorder je.

saya ada xternal hardisk ngan DV camcorder... capture video guna FCP... tu pun dah ketinggalan zaman dah, camcorder tu pon beli tahun 2002... heeeeee... masih elok dan takde cita2 nak tukar yg baru... tatau la kot skang teknologi USB yg ada kat camcorder zaman skang dah canggih2 sampai boleh replace teknologi firewire... biasalah, zaman sentiasa berubah... bg kita pengguna biasa ni takde hal lagi, klu ada duit setel masalah cuma dengan ganti baru ajer camcoder tu cari yg teknologi usb 100%... tp kena pikir jugak kampeni2 dan organisasi yg dah labur beribu2 atau berjuta dolar peralatan berasaskan FW...

kalau siapa tahu di amerika, market apple ini sebenarnya banyak melibatkan sekolah2 dan institusi pendidikan. Jd kebanyakan peralatan disekolah2 mereka lebih banyak berasaskan multimedia content dan peralatan2 mereka takkan lari dari penggunaan FW ni. Bila sebut saje pelajar.. sudah tentulah bajet utk membeli laptop tu limited, sbg laptop entry level yg tntunya menjadi pilihan utama pelajar, tidak wajarlah apple meminggirkan FW tanpa memikirkan pelaburan yg telah dibuat oleh pendokong2 mereka selama ini. Mungkin kita di Malaysia lebih banyak didedahkan dengan penggunaan PC, jadi mungkin ada yg menganggap FW ini hanyalah masalah kecik. Begitu jugak di negara kita ini tidak ramai yang terlibat dalam bidang audio video, ada atau tidak ada FW ini tidaklah menjadi perkara penting bagi mereka.

Walaubagaimanapun, amber percaya, apple takkan duduk diam selepas desakan daripada pelbagai pihak mengenai FW nie... mungkin apple akan menyedari kesilapan ini dan berusaha untuk menghasilkan sesuatu peranti khas atau converter bagi menyelesaikan permasalahan ini. Kalau siapa pernah mengikuti sejarah perkembangan model2 apple yg terdahulu(selepas apple re-branding), pasti teringat dgn beberapa model yg pernah mengalami kegagalan semenjak apple melakukan penjenamaan semula pada tahun 1999. Beberapa model spt ibook G3, G4 Cube, emac, mac mini dan sebagainya adalah contoh2 kegagalan2 yg pernah dialami oleh Apple. Tidak semua keluaran Apple adalah yang terbaik. Adakah mungkin macbook terbaru ini juga akan termasuk didalam senarai model2 keluaran Apple yg gagal? heeeeeeeeeee ........ :mrgreen:

[engku]

isk2... 11k eh? pehhhh... leh bawak outstation pastu kalo kat rumah cucuk kat skrin tu je eh? Hmmmmm... kena tambah meja lagilah kat bilik ni. :D



eh tak, saya bukan nak beli..

:D

[ND]

Saya nak beli Apple...

buahnya je..hehehe

[pitouch]

A quick one on the new models price.

MacBook White RM3699
MacBook 2.0 RM4799
MacBook 2.4 RM5899

MacBook Pro 2.4 RM7199
MacBook Pro 2.53 RM8999
MacBook Pro 17? RM10099
MacBook Air 1.6/120GB RM6599
MacBook Air 1.8/128GB SSD RM8999

Apple LED Cinema Display RM3599

On clearance (while stock last only, limited units available)
MacBook Air 1.6 80GB RM5899
MacBook Black 2.4GHz RM4799
MacBook Pro 15? 2.4 RM5899
MacBook Pro 15? 2.5 RM6599
MacBook Pro 17? RM9099

Tempahan sudah boleh di buat sekarang ....... yehaaaaaaaaaaaaa .... pegi lah tempah ..aku takdo duit lagik .... kuang kuang kuang

[zul78]

takper lah .... saya stick dengan WINDOWS jer .....

[buntalshoot]

MacBook Pro 2.53 RM8999 + Apple LED Cinema Display RM3599 = RM 12,598 (investment utk 5 tahun)

tangkap leleh oooo.... criter jer brapi... tapi pulus memang ngak ada... pakai jer la mana yg ada...

[pitouch]

Reports are coming in that Apple’s new MacBooks and MacBook Pros are selling out in retail stores around the world.

Apple’s flagship San Francisco store reportedly had no stock as of this morning, and our own David Appleyard apparently scored the last new MBP at the Manchester Arndale store. The London Regent Street flagship store is also announcing that they are out of stock, and calls to the Toronto Eaton Centre Apple Store confirm that they also have no stock and aren’t sure when they’ll be receiving any.

With flagship stores in three different countries already experiencing stock shortages, it’s clear that Apple’s new notebooks are being fairly well received by consumers, even if analysts are disappointed in the high price points of the new notebooks. It’s not clear from these reports whether sales have been exceptionally high, supplies are short, or some combination of the two. Another possibility is that Apple is taking a page from Nintendo’s playbook and short-stocking in order to drive up demand. Whether real or orchestrated, the same tactic worked well for them when the iPhone 3G initially launched.

If you’ve run into any stock shortages or outages at your own local store, or if you were lucky enough to get your hands on one, let us know.

SOURCE : APPLE BLOG